Help Requested - Fuel Testing

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 06/08/2020 at 12:26 • Filed to: None

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I have a current criminal file/large(r) loss that I am working on for work. As most of you know, I am a “claims advocate” which means I work with/ against insurers and make sure our clients receive the broadest coverage and maximum recovery from their policy.

I have a claim where a large piece of commercial equipment broke down. Insurers have denied coverage (mechanical breakdown isn’t covered), but we have reason to believe that this was sabotage and that some sort of unknown substance was added to the diesel fuel.

Has anyone on Oppo ever had experience with getting fuel analyzed? What can you tell me about it and who did it for you?

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:30

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Black stone labs does oil testing, maybe they could help you out even if their site doesn’t explicitly list that service? Unless that won’t work because they’re American.

Also,  in b road strokes, how does one get in to your like of work? Degree or special certificate? It sounds very interesting and potentially rewarding. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:33

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You could just call a dealer service department and ask what they do?

I do a lot of environmental testing of gasoline and diesel range organics but that’s in the parts per million range not a test for foreign substance like sugar.

This should be a pretty simple test and not even cost that much. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:34

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It isn’t a vehicle unfortunately.

edit: It is a large generator, we will likely need a scope of testing that is in the PPM.  It will increase cost, but we need to identify the substance 

Future next gen S2000 owner > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:36

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Some fellas on the east coast of Canada got you covered.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:37

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That doesn’t mater, they should have some experience testing fuel when someone brings in a Duramax or Powerstroke that was filled with regular unleaded or water...

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:43

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We have a fuel sample taken by a diesel specialist at a shop near where this occurred (Oil Fields of AB), but they don’t know what the substance is unfortunately.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:43

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You might look into the agency in your area that tests and certifies fuel for sale at the pump.  In my state, that's a function of the State Agriculture Department, but I imagine there is some government entity in your area that tests and certifies fuel for sale and use on roads.  They may be able to do the kind of testing you're seeking for a fee, but I would expect at minimum they could point you to a lab that does that kind of work.

gettingoldercarguy > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:44

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Contact your local university chemical department. A professor there should steer you to somebody who can help.

I’ve always used

https://www.swri.org/

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:46

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You would have to have an idea what you are looking for to order the right test. The tests are very specific based on the target substance . You could still to a diesel range organic test to determine the % diesel in the fuel and even a gasoline range organic test to see if it was gasoline....

InFierority Complex > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:48

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Was gonna comment that the lighting in that shot really ma de your truck look black and gold. It’s not your truck, tho so I’m just wasting anybody’s time that reads this comment. Also I have not idea about the fuel.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:50

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Ok! Thanks!

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 12:53

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Svend > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 13:20

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Not directly.

When we were doing a science class at school on fuel types and properties, we obtained a lot of information from an oil refinery but try asking the police, trading standards, customs & excise, etc... where they go to get fuel tested.

Cash Rewards > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 13:48

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A mass spec is probably your answer. Contract out a local chemistry department at a university?

Pat Pfeiffer > Future next gen S2000 owner 06/08/2020 at 14:01

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I used to work with an crazy old timer who would identify which substance was leaking from vehicles by, wait for it.... tasting it. He would dip his fingers in the puddle, taste them, and go "yep, its leaking tranny fluid all right" 

ClassicDatsunDebate > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 06/08/2020 at 14:24

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Call Acuren or ALS and tell them you need some diesel fuel inspected for contamination and its constituents.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ClassicDatsunDebate 06/08/2020 at 14:28

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Mhm, I am going to go with ALS.  Cheers!